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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #110397 by Chris Marti
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Tom, one other comment and it's about the site security certificate. It's the warning folks get when they come here that it's "Not secure." I see that in Chrome, and in FireFox I see the slashed out padlock icon. It might help to get that fixed. If you need funding please let me know privately. I would be happy to help.
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6 years 10 months ago #110398 by Shargrol
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+1
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6 years 10 months ago #110400 by Noah
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I have another random thought which is that the original premise of the whole thing was the 'end of a specific axis of development' , i.e. that one could be done with supramundane insight. This unified idea became diversified by differing definitions between teachers + new attainments like AF, direct mode & even I am discovering more potential stuff that I consider to be even deeper than fundamental doneness/seeing mind constructing reality... things like awakened lucidity across different spectrums of consciousness are further types of constructions to see through.... thus the idea of one selling point of "4th path" sort of got broken up & complexified, which is ultimately bad marketing strategy, thus less popularity.
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6 years 10 months ago #110403 by Andy
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Chris Marti wrote: Tom, one other comment and it's about the site security certificate. It's the warning folks get when they come here that it's "Not secure." I see that in Chrome, and in FireFox I see the slashed ou padlock icon. It might help to get that fixed. If you need funding please let me know privately. I would be happy to help.


Agree. Let me know as well.
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6 years 10 months ago #110412 by Tom Otvos
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Andy wrote:

Chris Marti wrote: Tom, one other comment and it's about the site security certificate. It's the warning folks get when they come here that it's "Not secure." I see that in Chrome, and in FireFox I see the slashed ou padlock icon. It might help to get that fixed. If you need funding please let me know privately. I would be happy to help.


Agree. Let me know as well.


Yes, the certificate has been on my TDL for a *long* time. Russell had pointed me to a free cert source as well. But if someone wants to take that on (free or commercial) that would be awesome.
-- tomo
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6 years 10 months ago #110413 by Tom Otvos
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shargrol wrote: Another new-ish thought --- take the old nuggets of good stuff and turn it into FAQ.

Something that I've been wanting to do is use the nanas and the paths as an outline and then under each header, list out some typical questions and good answers. Basically do this in the order of typical progress so that even within, let's say FEAR nana, there is the early fear stuff (being spooked and turned away), middle fear stuff (watching it like an interesting horror movie, scared but still want to watch), the transition phase (starting to get insights into fear, what it is and isn't, how old ways of looking at fear are wrong), and mature fear (noticing the value of the information, the exhileration, and how the temptation to freak out cuts us off from information and exhileration of this phase).

Most of what we have here often spans a few nanas, so it would require some editing. But I think such a product would make it useful to many many people.


I have a placeholder for a wiki, which I had intended to be just that kind of FAQ, under the "Learn" tab above. I always felt that a repo of PD thought, in a Wikipedia kind of way, would be a great resource.
-- tomo
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6 years 10 months ago #110416 by Russell
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On the SSL front: Not only would it be nice to have the site secured, but Google actually gives favoritism to https sites vs http these days, so it can actually help prevent awakenetwork from dying in a small way. I don't think Let's Encrypt would be too hard to implement but I don't know much about the server.
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6 years 10 months ago #110424 by Chris Marti
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What is our primary objective for this site?
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6 years 10 months ago #110425 by Noah
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Get as many people into the dark night as possible, right?
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6 years 10 months ago #110427 by Chris Marti
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:P
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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #110430 by Chris Marti
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Let me try this again:

What is our primary objective for this site?


When you all come to this site what is it that you come here for?
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6 years 10 months ago #110433 by matthew sexton
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Chris Marti wrote: Let me try this again:

What is our primary objective for this site?


When you all come to this site what is it that you come here for?


I came for help through the unknown. DhO was too noisy, every tom dick and scary, the whole world, watching, weighing in on my practice log. I needed some peace and quiet and conversation from the people I met at BG2014.
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6 years 10 months ago #110434 by matthew sexton
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Noah wrote: Get as many people into the dark night as possible, right?


I think that's a legit goal if we're trying to save the world. I'm assuming that the math would work out and the net effect would be positive. Another goal like that might get as many people into access concentration as possible.
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6 years 10 months ago #110436 by Shargrol
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Chris Marti wrote: Let me try this again:

What is our primary objective for this site?


When you all come to this site what is it that you come here for?


Basically, it's the only sane meditation place on the internet?
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6 years 10 months ago #110440 by Ona Kiser
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I think Spud has a point that the dramatic claims ("I'm an arhat! Be enlightened in five easy steps! You, too, can shoot lasers out your fingers! My dark night is better than your dark night!") on other forums or in the past tend to draw a crowd, in the same way that a fight in the high school parking lot draws a crowd. Which combines nicely with Matthew's point that he came here so he could have a quiet practice thread on which fewer people comment!

So to say, the appeal here seems to be the lack of silly drama and the calmer level of activity.

Which means it's fine the way it is. But it will also always be less popular than the fight in the parking lot. It's more like the table in the library where the geeks hang out during lunch to avoid the cafeteria.

Why I keep thinking of high school during this post...perhaps because I just read some people's journals and they all have teenagers...?

If it were a Catholic forum we'd do a monthly novena (nine day group prayer) for the well-being of the participants and the flourishing of the forum. I find novenas a little long, but I do pray for our-all's well-being and the healthy flourishing of the forum.
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6 years 10 months ago #110444 by Chris Marti
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Welcome back, Ona!
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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #110446 by Chris Marti
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Basically, it's the only sane meditation place on the internet?


:woohoo:

This makes me think maybe sanity isn't all that popular...
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6 years 10 months ago #110447 by Chris Marti
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Which means it's fine the way it is.


I really do think it's better with more activity, like what I saw this morning when I logged in. Not crazy shit. Just more sane, smart and useful conversation. I don't think AN will ever appeal to the whacko crowd, mainly because we tend to chase them off with our calm abiding demeanor.

:cheer:
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6 years 10 months ago #110449 by Chris Marti
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I'm curious, Ona... what brings you back here?
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6 years 10 months ago #110450 by Ona Kiser
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I answered over in my rabbit hole...
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6 years 10 months ago #110452 by Chris Marti
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Yes, you said:

awakenetwork.org/forum/111-personal-prac...le?start=1325#110448
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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #110472 by Ona Kiser
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Okay, I agree, this forum is really slow compared to back a ways. Needs more people who are online all day for work and realistically it probably needs more arguments, and more people who get offended and argue. :D Reading that dukkha thread beginning, for instance, it was a lot of persnickety arguing (from my perspective). A bunch of mellow people who all get along don't make for less suffering, but suffering is what generates activity, no? (edited for typo)
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6 years 10 months ago #110474 by Chris Marti
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As I've been saying.

:cheer:
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6 years 10 months ago #110479 by Laurel Carrington
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Hm. Just took a look at the thread again and saw differences of opinion, but no actual conflict going on. I remember well how some of the real conflicts generated a lot of interest, especially on my part (the fighting over Actualism comes to mind). I don’t want us getting back to that kind of participation again!
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6 years 10 months ago #110484 by Shargrol
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What we need is a schism. :D
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